Tonight we're following along with Dodgers-Cubs on a live blog/chat. Feel free to join in using the comments.

 

7:55
Welcome all, thanks for following along
7:55
Dodgers-Cubs tonight ... couple of lefthanders on the hill ... Eric Milton for LA, Sean Marshall for the Cubbies
7:57
the Dodgers won the first game of the series on Thursday, but the Cubs have won 2 straight. LA only with 3 runs this series
8:02
Will attempt to watch things without being dumbed down by Joe Morgan and Steve Phillips
8:03
realize that sometimes its more fun to rip on them, but Morgan we all know is useless, and Phillips really got me mad with his Beltran rant a couple weeks ago, so we're boycotting this week
8:05
[Comment From Guest ]
Joe Morgan said Juan Pierre has always been an excellent everyday player and will be able to fill the hole of Manny Ramirez. Ok, Joe.
8:05
Ha, that is just false
8:06
unless he can hit 40 bombs and OPS like 1.000
8:08
amazingly his OPS this year is .962. granted, a small sample size (43 games). but it's been under .700 the last 2. lets hear what Joe has to say at the end of June, when Pierre is struggling and Manny is ready to come back
8:09
Pierre, Furcal, Hudson due up for the Dodgers
8:10
graphic just said that sean marshall is 3-3, but the Cubs are 2-5 in his starts. hmmmm
8:12
infield hit to short for Pierre leading off. let's just put him in the Hall of Fame right now. I bet Morgan is saying how he told us so about Pierre at the top of the telecast
8:13
awful start for Furcal this year - .240/.306/.302 ... 1 hr, 10 rbi, 3 sb
8:13
[Comment From Guest ]
What's with Joe Morgan and his man-love for Pierre. Oh, and Phillips said Pierre has brought power to this lineup. These are geniuses in the broadcast booth.
8:13
see, thats why i have the volume off
8:14
Furcal with a dribbler past second for a hit .. 1st and 3rd to start, Marshall in trouble
8:16
rope through the hole between third and short ... RBI single for Hudson, Dodgers up 1-0 early, finally showing some O at Wrigley
8:17
and I like Hudson, which is why I didn't make fun of the little league helmet. Shane Victorino will have no such luck when the Phillies play next on Sunday night
8:18
Russell Martin at the plate, still homerless. Yet he's batting 4th.
8:18
although we can't kill Torre for this lineup now
8:18
Martin hits it exactly where Hudson did, breaking his bat. Bases loaded, no outs. pitching coach out to the mound
8:19
Loney at the plate, only 2 HR for him
8:21
Loney bloops a hit to center, everyone advances a base ... 2-0 dodgers
8:22
Matt Kemp up
8:22
fouls away a tough 0-2 curve
8:23
Marshall gets him with a high fastball out of the zone - the best 0-2 pitch in baseball
8:23
nasty deuce as Marshall gets ahead of Mark Loretta
8:24
Loretta rips a double down the left field line. 2 more runs score, now 4-0 Dodgers
8:26
great play on a foul ball by the guy protecting the bullpen catcher. kind of sad that there are guys warming up this early
8:27
sac fly by Hoffman, 5-0 in the first
8:27
brutal inning for Marshall, as Eric Milton mercifully ends it with a fly out to (deep) center
8:30
Soriano leading off -- 70/30 he swings at firts pitch
8:30
nope, took it, ball one.
8:31
Soriano pops up to O-Dawg for the first out
8:32
Ryan Theriot at the plate, singles to left. Don't tell Rick Telander, he might accuse him of using steroids again
8:33
Milton Bradley takes strike 2 and the ump must be biased
8:34
struck him out swinging on a change
8:35
D Lee up ... only 55 homers since he hit 46 in 2005
8:35
i promise I won't say the S word
8:37
great leaping catch by Loretta to snare Lee's liner ... inning over
8:37
5-0 Dodgers after 1
8:42
1-2-3 inning for Marshall ... good that he gets back on track
8:42
[Comment From Sunny ]
Any thoughts on what the Dodgers do with Pierre when Manny comes back? Return him to the bench, or try to trade him?
8:46
well he definitely returns to the bench
8:46
you never know what will happen to Kemp or Ethier or whoever is in the other spot
8:47
maybe they can get something for him, but I really feel like come July, his stats will be back to where they usually are and he'll be their 4th outfielder
8:47
Reed johnson bloops a double that Kemp just misses on a dive to lead off
8:48
Geovanny Soto just gets under one and flies to left for the first out. Good job by Reed advancing to 3rd ... Pierre doesn't have a strong enough arm to get him
8:48
need to get this run home and chip away. Bobby Scales at the plate
8:49
reminiscent of Micky Scales from Little Big League.
8:49
web gem alert! diving catch by Hoffman in shallow right, who nailes Johnson at the plate trying to tag up. inning over, huge play by LA
8:52
Good 2nd inning for Marshall, lets see, in the words of Herm Edwards, if he can build on this
8:53
nice replay of Martin blocking the plate from last inning ... Johnson never touched the plate
8:53
Martin grounds weakly to 3rd, one out
8:54
Loney hits a weak tapper to Scales at second, 2 down
8:54
[Comment From Guest ]
Who is a better quote-machine: Joe Morgan or Herm Edwards?
8:54
Herm, no question
8:54
There's some humor in Herm because he's a little out there. Morgan just says things that make you want to pound your head into a wall. Herm says stuff that we laugh about
8:55
You playyyy ... to win ... the game.. Helllloooooooooooo
8:55

hanger inside, and Kemp puts in the bleachers. 6-0 Dodgers. Kid can rake

8:56
grounder to Theriot at short, who slips on the outfield grass but still throws out the runner, inning over
8:59
[Comment From Guest ]
What's wrong with Marshall? He's getting pounded by a Dodger team with Juan Pierre, Mark Loretta, Jamie Hoffman, and Eric Milton in it. And the winds are blowing in.
8:59
Dodgers found the holes in the 1st inning. infield hit, broken bat hit, bloop single
8:59
then he hung one inside to Kemp
9:00
Fontenot grounds out for the first out
9:00
and milton K's Marshall for out #2
9:03

Soriano walks and hell freezes over

9:04
[Comment From unemployed Cubs fan ]
What'll happen first--the Cubs winning it all, or the recession ending ?
9:04
hopefully the recession
9:04
ha, but what would you prefer?
9:05
[Comment From Guest ]
Maybe it's a little premature to begin talking about playoffs, but are the Dodgers really still a pitcher away from being a team built for the playoffs?
9:05
can always use more pitching
9:06
Billingsley is a stud, Kershaw is hot and cold (devastating when he's on)
9:06
I wouldn't bank on Randy Wolf rocking a 2.84 ERA and 1.105 whip the rest of the way though
9:06
maybe Weaver or Milton sticks
9:06
but I could see the Dodgers getting another arm
9:08
Kuroda back tomorrow off DL. He might be able to be one of the guys they count on
9:08
[Comment From Guest ]
like a Peavy or Oswalt
9:08
cant see the Padres trading Peavy to the Dodgers
9:08
Oswalt who knows
9:08
and remember, Pedro is out there. Still don't know why Minaya hasn't jumped on that
9:09

by the way, we're in the top of the 4th, 6-0 dodgers, man on 1st, one out, Juan Pierre at the plate

9:09
or as joe morgan might call him, Jesus
9:09
lineout to short, 2 down
9:10
Do the Dodgers need another starting pitcher?
Yes
 ( 62% )
No
 ( 38% )

9:11
[Comment From Guest ]
who will be the better hitter the patient Loney or the aggressive Kemp?
9:11
Kemp has the higher ceiling. Loney seems like he could develop more power, but I'd have to go with Kemp
9:13
Loney's dip in power last year and into this season are a bit odd. 15 HR in 375 plate appearances in 07. 15 HR in 871 plate appearances since
9:13
[Comment From Guest ]
i agree, although i do see Loney battling for a batting title down the line
9:13
possibly, but batting average is a bit overrated. Loney's OPS last year and a half is pretty average
9:13
[Comment From Guest ]
By the way, really like this site. Was referred over here from MLBTradeRumors a while back and haven't stopped coming
9:14
much appreciated, and Craig, Aaron, Matthew, and DJ say thank you as well
9:14
MLB trade rumors a great site by the way
9:15
Derek Lee at the plate, one out, Dodgers 6, Cubs 0
9:15
Lee just misses one to right center. That was gone in 2005
9:16
or maybe if the wind wasn't blowing in
9:16
[Comment From Guest ]
What was Milton like before his comeback? He looked really good in his last start, and looks good today. Only started following baseball seriously about a year ago, so I've never heard of him
9:17
Milton's been around for awhile ... full-time starter back oin 1998 with the Twinkies.
9:19
ERA of 5.00 for his career ... always had tools but has never put it together for a season. He's had some tough injuries (usually elbow-related) that has caused him to miss large chunks of time. 3 G in 2003, 6 G in 2007, missed all of 2008
9:19
Milton has always given up a ton of homers ... led the league in 04-05
9:19
tough playing in Minny, Philly, and Cincy
9:19
[Comment From Guest ]
I feel like Lee has had an inordinate number of near-home runs this year. Of course, I'm double-biased: I'm a Cubs fan and have D-Lee on my fantasy team (only Cub). And I don't really know what an "ordinary" number of near-homers is.
9:20
ha, I wish I knew where to look that up
9:21
one thing is true, Lee is hitting an inordinate number of fly balls this year (50.9%) compared to 38.4% for his career
9:21

according to fangraphs

9:21
[Comment From Guest ]
What is the scouting report on Jamie Hoffman, I heard alot about Xavier Paul before his call up, but nothing on Jamie, and he's been holding his own and then some so far.
9:23

decent pop: 2007: 9 HR, 81 RBI, .833 OPS

9:23
2008: 10 HR, 71 RBI, .745 OPS
9:25
21 errors in 5 minor league season
9:25
doesnt walk a ton
9:26
Loney doubles home Martin, and that'll do it for Sean Marshall. Brutal game. Probably caught the Dodgers at the wrong time - they were due
9:26
7-0 Dodgers in the 5th
9:28
Jose Ascanio in for the Cubbies
9:29
Kemp at the plate, hit his 6th homer last time up
9:29
and now he rips a single to left .... hit too hard to score Loney ... 1st and 3rd, 1 out in the 5th
9:30
for all you hockey fans ... 1-1 midway through the 2nd in Detroit
9:31
make that 2-1 Wings
9:31
Kemp nearly picked off first but he gets back
9:31
Who will become a better hitter?
James Loney
 ( 9% )
Matt Kemp
 ( 91% )

9:33
Kemp steals second, and an awful bounced throw by Soto gets through and Loney scores
9:34
[Comment From Guest ]
Everyone was saying at the beginning of the year how Dodger pitching was going to be a weakness. Assuming every team has all its pitchers healthy, which rotation(s) are better than the Dodgers in a 7 game series?
9:34
definitely not the Phillies
9:34
[Comment From Joe ]
lol come on lets get some james loney love
9:35
Santana, Pelfrey, Maine probably doesnt stack up quite as well
9:35
although we shouldnt be making Billingsley and Wolf out to be Koufax and Drysdale
9:35
[Comment From Joe ]
NYM!
9:35
[Comment From Guest ]
dont forget about the rubber band himself livan hernandez
9:36
I'm trying to be unbiased about the Mets
9:36
[Comment From manram ]
cubs when healthy
9:36
when healthy very key there
9:36
which is rarely ... or when Zambrano is beating the bag out of water coolers
9:37
[Comment From Joe ]
st louis had a nice run recently
9:37
Giants actually have a dangerous rotation, but they aint making it
9:37
Cueto, Harzang, Volquez aint a bad 1-2-3 if Edinson catches fire
9:38
[Comment From Guest ]
Do you personally prefer a pitching duel or a slugfest?
9:38
pitching, but with a few runs
9:38
too many runs isnt my favorite
9:38
[Comment From Guest ]
Marlins???
9:38

they're not ready yet

9:39
What's more enjoyable?
Pitchers duel
 ( 80% )
Slugfest
 ( 20% )

9:39
apologies we havent been keeping track of the game as much, although I assume youre all watching. Dodger 8-0 in the 5th, 2 outs
9:39
[Comment From manram ]
webb and haren and whoever their #3 is
9:39
Haren is absolutely filthy
9:40
Have to be concerned about Webb's shoulder, although he's scheduled to be back soon
9:40
Dbacks arent a playoff factor though
9:40
Jurrjens, Lowe, and Vazquez is actually pretty good ... Braves will be in the mix
9:40
[Comment From Guest ]
doug davis? lol
9:41
Who has the best staff in the NL (when healthy)?
Dodgers
 ( 21% )
Cubs
 ( 29% )
Mets
 ( 7% )
Braves
 ( 14% )
Cardinals
 ( 14% )
Reds
 ( 14% )

9:42
[Comment From manram ]
gherzer except for today.10 ks lat 2 starts
9:43
heading to the 6th, 8-0 Dodgers ... you guys have been great so far with the comments -- helping us get through this one
9:43
[Comment From Joe ]
It looks more and more like Manny Ramirez will end up back in Boston...but in the World Series with LA
9:44
[Comment From manram ]
wasnt waddle a reciever for the bears?
9:45
[Comment From Guest ]
thanks for fielding our questions. might as well ask away before this site becomes too popular.. really hope this place takes off soon!
9:45
ha, thanks
9:45
and youre welcome
9:46
Michael Waddell was a defensive player for the Titans ad Raiders
9:46
[Comment From Joe ]
Lets get more random, random is always fun
9:46
[Comment From Guest ]
I know he got called up even though his AAA ERA was over 5.00. That's just how bad Cotts was.
9:46
[Comment From Joe ]
9especially since this game is over) Favorite show as a child. Jonny Quest!!
9:47
saved by the bell
9:47
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
What pitching match-up would you love to see right now? As an east coaster, I'd love to see Doc and the Blue Jays go up against Johan and the Metsies.
9:47
i could dig that
9:47
probably the two best in the game ... i need greinke to do it a little longer before i give him that mantle
9:47
[Comment From andrew ]
greinke lince
9:47
[Comment From Joe ]
i want to see grienke vs lincecum.
9:48
Greinke vs Lincecum in battle of awesome pitchers who loook like theyre 12
9:49
Lincecum is filthy ... most of the times I've seen him though, the Mets knock him around
9:49
[Comment From andrew ]
who would you rather have, david price or stephen strasburg
9:49
by all accounts, Strasburgh is a sure thing
9:49
I'd usually take the Lefty over the righty
9:50
[Comment From Joe ]
no worries about how gwynn handles him?
9:50
you think he throws too much?
9:50
[Comment From Joe ]
could be damaged goods
9:50
well it'd be just the Nats luck for him to get drafted and then blow out an elbow
9:50
[Comment From Guest ]
What should the Red Sox do with all their pitchers?
9:51
it's a good problem to have, too many arms. that kind of thing usually works itself out - a guy will get hurt, someone will come back to life
9:51
who knows how smoltz will be when he's ready
9:52
the thing about smoltz, he'd probably volunteer to pitch out of the pen if it meant getting a chance to pitch (plus he's done it before)
9:52
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
I think he's playing in a lesser conference and hasn't face real competition ever in his life.
9:52
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
trade some to the Mets.
9:52
[Comment From Joe ]
Gary Sheffield...candidate/winner for comeback player of the year?
9:53

Sheff has been money ... especially last couple weeks. Scary to think what their lineup looks like without him, which is kind of a depressing thought

9:53
[Comment From Guest ]
no way.. it's going to be jason schmidt when he comes back in the second half and maintains a 0.00 ERA
9:53
back to the game, furcal cant get to theriots grounder up the middle
9:53
[Comment From Guest ]
Any guesses for why Furcal's been off to such a slow start? Even defensively, he's been bouncing a ton of throws.
9:54
havent seen the dodgers night in, night out, but he's been god awful. saw him against the mets and he airmailed a few into the stands
9:54
[Comment From Joe ]
lol schmidt? come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
9:54
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
Trade Smotlz to the Braves for Francoeur.
9:54
[Comment From Joe ]
letting that money get to his head. lol jk
9:55
[Comment From Guest ]
Is jason schmidt still alive?
9:56
Bradley just hit a laser off the ivy in left for a double
9:57
I was just about to praise Milton for pitching great. Maybe that jinxed him. Hopefully he can get out of the inning so Torre doesnt get a chance to abuse some poor young arm in the bullpen
9:57
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
Apparently the Cubs are still alive...
9:57
bases loaded now ... Lee is hit by a pitch on a fastball in
9:58
Youkilis probably wouldve glared out at the mound even though theyre down 8
9:58
Do the Cubbies have a shot to win?
Yes
 ( 43% )
No
 ( 57% )

9:59
Milton with a get-me-over slurve to start
9:59
OH! Johnson rips a double to right center ... 2 runs home ... 8-2, second and third, only one out
10:00
Torre out to the mound, but hasnt made a move yet
10:01
now Milton comes out, Ronald Belisario in to pitch
10:01
2.43 ERA, 28 K in 29.2 IP
10:01
if the Cubbies get these 2 runners home, we'll call it a ball game
10:03
[Comment From Guest ]
what do you consider a normal IP number at this point of the season for a 1-inning reliever? All-star break? End of season? only asking because torre's been making me nervous with belisario
10:04

well we're about a third of the way through (not quite) ... Bellisaro on pace for nearly 80 appearances, thats a good amount

10:04
as he Ks Soto with 96 on the outside corner. tough call
10:04
[Comment From Guest ]
also, never understood why espn doesn't show the number of inherited runners scored when a reliever comes on.. isn't that a better measure of a reliever's effectiveness? or is k/bb ratio enough to tell
10:05
IRS is extremely important, yes
10:05
he's allowed 5 of 15 runners to score
10:06
33%, which is the same as the Dodgers bullpen as a whole
10:06
by comparison, the Angels are allowing 39% of inherited runners to score
10:06
the Cubs 30%
10:07
and Belisario's ratio just went down ... fly out to Kemp to end the inning... great job in relief right there
10:08

although with Torre as the manager, that's like the opposite of a silver lining, cause the more he trusts a guy, the more he overuses someone

10:08

just ask Scott Proctor

10:09
[Comment From Joe ]
second that. scott probably cried a river when torre was hired
10:10
yeah that was really just a cruel twist of karma for proctor
10:10
leadoff single for Martin
10:11

Loney sends Soriano to the track for the 2nd out, hit it well

10:12
Martin stolen base
10:13
[Comment From Guest ]
listening to any other baseball game makes me realize just how lucky dodger fans are to have scully
10:13
Scully is the best excuse to get MLB extra innings
10:13
no question
10:15
for any cubs fans ... have you guys sat on the roofdeck across the street? me and a few buddies thinking about doing it for a mets game in august. worth it?
10:16
Best stadium in baseball?
Wrigley Field
 ( 43% )
Fenway Park
 ( 29% )
Dodger Stadium
 ( 0% )
Giants (AT&T?)
 ( 14% )
Camden Yards
 ( 14% )

10:18
Hoffman with a 1-2 count, 1st and 2nd, 2 out
10:18
cant catch up to 93 mph heat ... inning over ... take me out to the ballgame time
10:18
speaking of, world class performance by Mr T earlier in the week
10:21
[Comment From Joe ]
i wanna see an ozzy encore
10:22
Ozzy was legendary. Any guesses as to what he was on when he sang that time?
10:22
[Comment From Joe ]
not even gonna go there lol
10:22
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
dove heads
10:22
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
What are your thoughts on the Manny / All-Stat Game controversy?
10:23
I actually find it a bit amusing that this show how wacked the system of voting players in is at times
10:24
I'm also amused at the media people who are flipping out about it and are having coronaries
10:24
[Comment From Joe ]
i think selig will nullify it
10:24
he can pull a gary bettman and make up a rule in the middle of the season
10:26
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
The All-Star Game needs the rules re-written! It needs a bail-out!
10:27
the home field advantage thing is stupid
10:28
back to the game, soriano with a 1-2 count, 2 outs, no one on in the 7th
10:30
Soriano doubles down the line
10:32
[Comment From Joe ]
Alfonso Soriano. Worth the contract?
10:32
[Comment From Guest ]
If the Cubs win during the course of Soriano's contract, will he be remembered more fondly and become more of a historic figure in baseball lore than Sosa?
10:32
itll be interesting to see how the fans view Sosa in 10 years, once we've all digested the steroids stuff
10:33
you cant discount the summer of 98 though with sosa
10:33
steroids or not, it happened, and cubs fans will always remember that
10:33
if soriano is a world series hero, its fair to say he'd jump over sosa in their heart
10:33
[Comment From Cruzer ]
Anybody know why Martin has a "J" in front of his name on his uniform?
10:33
something to do with his mother i think
10:34
[Comment From Cruzer ]
Sosa had such a bad exit not many will remember him fondly.
10:34
[Comment From Joe ]
to honor his mother i believe
10:36
[Comment From Cruzer ]
OK Noticed that when I went to the game on Friday....had no idea why. Haven't heard anything from commentators yesterday or tonight.
10:38
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
Coming into 2009, who did you think had a better shot at winning it all: the Lakers or the Dodgers?
10:39
Dodgers, but I'm biased ... I hate Kobe. too much of a phony
10:39
Pierre strikes out against Marmol .. 2 out in the 8th
10:39
[Comment From Guest ]
Really hope the Dodgers retaliate on that one
10:40

well theriot almost got drilled last inning

10:40
[Comment From Cruzer ]
Retaliate for what?
10:40
marmol tries to field a grounder like he has 5 thumbs on his right hand... errror
10:40
[Comment From Cruzer ]
Marmol's control has een terrible all year.
10:42
cool fight at the end of the hockey game ... malkin getting involved
10:42
[Comment From Guest ]
Oh really? didn't know. just really fond of loretta haha, he's been really solid this year
10:42
Marmol slider about 4 feet outside
10:43
[Comment From Joe ]
carlos marmol, kevin gregg, or the entire 2008 Mets Bullpen XD
10:44

we dont like to talk about the 08 Mets pen

10:44
would take anyone over them
10:44
poor Ayala having to close, good lord
10:44
[Comment From Guest ]
should dodgers really lock up martin? seems like he offensively regresses a little more each year
10:45
martin only 26, so you probably wouldnt mind having him for the netx 4-5 years
10:45
just dont make the mistake the yanks did of signing an old posada
10:46
he throws out about a third of baserunners which isnt bad
10:46
[Comment From Cruzer ]
They need to give him more rest. He catches like every game.
10:47
[Comment From Ken ]
Dodgers bullpen is shaky all season, should they get help? A big trade if they want to win any playoff series.
10:47
you always can have more bullpen help, just a question of where youre getting it from
10:48
we'll see who gets put on the market once teams start to fall out of the race
10:49
the thing about bullpens is, those guys are usually so inconsistent year to year, even month to month sometimes
10:49
there's a reason theyre in the bullpen (other than a stud closer). if they were really good, theyd be starting
10:49
[Comment From Joe ]
jj putz? hes so aggrevating
10:49
[Comment From Guest ]
maybe boston will give us back saito...
10:50
loved that signing by  boston
10:50
and putz is probably hurt
10:50
walks way too many guys. but goes to show, even when you think you got a steal, it doesnt always work out bullpen-wise
10:50
[Comment From Ken ]
I think they should trade a young batter for 2 reliable RPs. It should be Kemp because he strikeout too much to be effective hitter. What do you think?
10:51
no way you trade kemp for bullpen arms at this stage ...  other than manny, he's the last guy id want to face in that lineup
10:51
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
Sherrill could be moved, but I think that the O's might keep him around if Ray can't get things figured out at some point. No need to turn into the Nats...
10:52
Ray is atrocious
10:53

not to sound too delusional, but the Os are only 6 back of the Sox ... lets see what happens with Wieters

10:53
[Comment From Guest ]
watching loney play first is really fun
10:53
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
Putz will be kept around, esp. if K-Rod's back flares up at least one more time.
10:53
[Comment From Sam ]
I beg the differ, Dodgers need another good SP not more RP.
10:53
they could use both
10:54
[Comment From Cruzer ]
No way you get RP that will help the Dodgers for as long as Kemp will help the team he would get traded to. As previously stated...RP is way too inconsistent.
10:54
[Comment From Joe ]
i really dig robert parnell
10:55
yeah he throws gas ... about time the Mets had guys in that 'pen who throw hard
10:55
1st and 3rd, 2 out, fukudome pinch hitting for the cubs
10:55
watching this guy swing day in day out would drive me nuts
10:55
strikes out to end the threat
10:56
[Comment From Cruzer ]
Yes, it does.
10:56
[Comment From Cruzer ]
Sadly I think he regresses and has second half just like last year.
10:56
[Comment From Sam ]
Colletti is too cheap to get any help in the bullpen. I would bet that the Dodgers won't make any move before the trade deadline.
10:58
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
I thought I'd go one night on the baseball blogs without seeing a Wieters reference. Soooo close.
10:58
apologies
10:58
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
It's actually turned into a fun drinking game.
11:00
[Comment From Joe ]
all right im gonna go, check me out at www.queenscourier.com/blogs/mets
11:00
[Comment From idle thoughts ]
Someone should create some rules for Sunday Night Baseball - THE DRINKING GAME.
11:01
i'm all ears if you wanna come up witha   few
11:01
[Comment From Guest ]
yay, Kemp laid off of a slider away! that pitch has been killing him
11:01
he's still young ... that kind of pitch recognition is something you develop usually
11:07
heading to the bottom of the 9th ... 8-2 dodgers
11:07
[Comment From Cruzer ]
Wow....can't believe I'm in agreement with Joe Morgan on something!!!
11:08
ive muted joe tonight
11:10
Broxton on to close things out
11:10
[Comment From Cruzer ]
Reference 50 game drug suspensions....he thinks players being able to play in minors before suspension ends is wrong.
11:11
[Comment From Cruzer ]
Says 50 games should be 50 games.
11:12
[Comment From Cruzer ]
Phillips tried to equate it to rehabbing while on the DL. Joe shot that down.
11:12
begrdgingly, agree with morgan
11:13
[Comment From Cruzer ]
Broxton is nasty.
11:13
Matt Stairs doesnt think so
11:15
Broxton Ks Soriano to end it
11:15
thanks to everyone for helping out, great job
11:15
see you next week
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With the Dodgers and Cubs less than an hour away from first pitch, here are a few things to consider:

- Eric Milton (1-0. 3.00) makes his third start of the year for the Dodgers. Milton won his first game in nearly three years his last time out, limiting the Rockies to a single run over five innings. He didn't pitch at all last season because of Tommy John surgery. He was called up from Triple-A Albuquerque on May 14.

- Sean Marshall (3-3, 3.70) toes the rubber for the Cubs. He pitched five innings in a rain-shortened win over the the Pirates on Wednesday, allowing one run while striking out six. He's lowered his ERA from 4.15 to 3.70 over his last four starts. Left-handed batters are just 6-for-35 (.171) off the 26-year-old southpaw.

- Alfonso Soriano has a .133 batting average over his last 11 games that has seen his batting average dip to .246, but he is 6-for-12 (no homers) in his career vs. Milton.

- Juan Pierre is batting .394 since taking over left field for the suspended Manny Ramirez on May 7. The Dodgers are 13-9 in that time.

- The Cubs have gone deep in eight straight games.

- Reed Johnson has three homers and six RBI in over his last six games after failing to homer in the season's first 24 games.

- The Dodgers were shut out for the first time this season on Saturday. They have yet to lose three in a row this season.

- After winning the National League's Rookie of the Year award in 2008, Geovany Soto has struggled this season with a .215/.338/.273 line. He has homered just once in 121 at-bats.

- Without the presence of Ramirez, Andre Ethier's batting average has dropped from .327 to .257. He was among the league leaders in RBI when the month started, but he has just three RBI in his last 20 games.

- The injury-riddled Cubs have won four of their last five games to bring their record to 15-12 this month.

I made the trek up the East Coast this weekend to see the Mets' road spring training lineup take on Josh Johnson and the Marlins. With the exception of Fernando Martinez's first hit, double and RBI, there wasn't much to crow about as the Marlins won the game handily 7-3. However, Saturday marked my first chance to catch a game at Citi Field. So besides telling you that braving the line at Shake Shack is worth it, here are a couple initial impressions which may or may not be original thoughts.

1) The Fanwalk is cool: In 2007, fans had an opportunity to purchase engraved bricks with a customized message that would sit on the plaza outside the entrance to the Jackie Robinson Rotunda. I had no idea how cool this would be until I saw it and now I regret not getting one. For a stadium that is largely a building at this point and not a "Mets" building, the brick walkway puts a real personal touch on the history of the franchise and their fans.

2) The Jackie Robinson Rotunda is underwhelming: I'm all for Jackie Robinson. Aside from Michael Jordan, he was my favorite person to write a biography about in elementary school. I completely understand the impact he has had on our game, but the grandiosity of the rotunda was lost on me. Do you really want the first thing people see when they walk in a Mets' ballpark to be a person in a Dodgers' uniform? Where's the Mark Carreon Rotunda? Give me some history! The whole thing left me feeling cold.

3) Lack of foul territory: Sure there are the obvious quirks of the fences, cut-outs and all, and The Pepsi Porch that hangs over the playing field, which is where I sat, but there is considerably less foul territory here as opposed to Shea Stadium. It's one thing to see it on television, but it's hard to feel the gravity of it until seeing it in person. For all the talk about this being a pitchers' park, opposing batters will certainly get a few extra swings here. I suppose it counter-balances in some weird way. As for down the lines, I can't wait to see a "Bartman moment" in this place. It's bound to happen. You know, probably on October 4th against the Astros with the Phillies and Mets deadlocked in first place.

One of the favorite go-to lines for certain baseball people is to gush about team chemistry. Whenever a team is going well, we hear from managers and writers and players about the great character guys are on the team and this and that. And if a team isn't playing up to the potential that has been set for them, chemistry is blamed. The team needs an attitude adjustment.

Does chemistry have an effect how teams play throughout a 162-game season? Most likely. But it isn't something any of us can quantify. That's what makes it occasionally maddening whenever someone uses the chemistry card as a crutch to explain wins and losses. Not shockingly, Dusty Baker is our latest to do so. When talking about the team's play so far in 2009 (26-21 through Friday), Dusty had this to say:

"We have more young talent, more exuberance, more excitement. Guys take losses harder. We have some good character to this ball club. That's one thing we wanted to change. You scout ability and you scout character as well when you're trying to put the pieces of the puzzle back together. We have a lot of homegrown talent. We injected quality guys from the outside to go along with homegrown talent. We brought in guys like (Laynce) Nix, (Arthur) Rhodes, (Ramon) Hernandez, (Micah) Owings. The hard thing is: Who do you keep and who do you delete? We've got guys here who get along well and like playing together. Guys who are highly competitive against the competition and highly competitive against each other without any envy or jealousy involved. These are some of the quality you try to put together."

To be fair, Dusty does throw out words like talent and ability, but the basic gist of this statement is that the Reds are playing better because the chemistry in the clubhouse is better. It's also a shot at guys like Adam Dunn and Ken Griffey Jr. who were traded away in the middle of last season.

Perhaps more guys getting along and enjoying playing with one another has contributed to the Reds solid start. And maybe Dusty was asked specifically about the team attitude. But let's not get delusional.

Maybe Dusty could've mentioned that his team as a whole is pitching better than they were last year.

2008: 4.55 ERA (99 ERA+), 1.45 WHIP
2009: 3.96 ERA (115 ERA+), 1.34 WHIP

Or that Aaron Harang, his ace, has a 3.36 ERA compared to 4.78 in 2008. He could've given props to a bullpen that has the following ERA numbers:

Cordero: 1.71
Herrera: 2.04
Rhodes: 0.53
Weathers: 2.70

He could've also noted that Joey Votto is crushing the ball (1.091 OPS), and they got rid of Corey Patterson's useless bat (.582 OPS, although Will Taveras hasn't been a whole lot better at .660). And if Dunn was in the lineup instead of Chris Dickerson, they would not be worse off.

So it's great that the Reds are fond of each other. But it's even better that they're pitching well.

So Matt Wieters made his debut last night. It was a rather uneventful one: 0-for-4 (fly out to right, grounder back to the box, weak grounder to 3rd, and a backwards K), and the poor Orioles fans couldn't even watch him take BP because of rain. Surely there will be some highlights to come for the top prospect in baseball, but an 0-fer debut, in a twisted way, actually puts him in some good company. Let's take a look at how some other Hall of Fame catchers fared in their first game.

Johnny Bench made his debut on August 28th, 1967 at Crosley Field as the Reds hosted the Phillies. Less than 10,000 people were in the stands. Hitting 7th in the lineup, Bench popped up to short in his first at-bat against Dick Ellsworth. But Bench had already had his "Welcome to the Majors" moment in the top half of the inning, when the opposing catcher, Gene Oliver, stole third. The oppposing catcher! Ouch. Two innings later, Philadelphia's Don Lock tried to take second, but Bench gunned him down.

Unfortunately, his first caught stealing didn't translate to success at the plate. In the bottom of the 4th, Ellsworth struck him out looking, and in the 6th, against Turk Farrell, Bench went down swinging with the tying run on third base. In the 9th, trailing 3-2, Bench was lifted for the batting prowess of Chico Ruiz, who was hitting .227 with a .577 OPS at that point (and was a career .240 hitter with 2 HR). Ruiz flew out to left and the Reds eventually lost. It would get much better for Bench after that.

A little more than 2 years later, on September 18, 1969, Carlton Fisk was behind the plate at Fenway Park for the first game of a doubleheader. With Mike Cuellar on the mound for the Orioles, Fisk grounded out to third in the in 2nd inning and then gave the shortstop some work in the 4th. Cuellar got him swinging in the 7th and then to pop up to second the end the 8th. No one tried to steal off of Fisk, although he did have a passed ball. About a month later, those same Orioles would fall to the Amazin' Mets in the World Series in five games.

What about Gary Carter? He was a late September call-up for the Expos in 1974, and made his debut on September 16th on the back half of a doubleheader against the defending NL Champion Mets at Parc Jerry in Montreal. This was the battle for 4th place, and only 9,166 people (assuming they all hung around) were there when The Kid stepped in face Randy Sterling leading off the 3rd inning. He grounded out to third, and then flew out to left in the 5th. Tug McGraw was on the hill when Carter batted in the 7th, but he fouled out to first. he had the chance to be a hero in the bottom of the 9th though. The tying run was on first with two outs, but Carter grounded into a fielder's choice to short, and the Mets held on. 0-for-4, but at least he put it in play every time, unlike Bench or Fisk.

Didn't any all-time catcher have an auspicious debut, you ask? Well of course. We just haven't spoken about one Michael Joseph Piazza.

It was 73 degrees and sunny on September 1st, 1992, but the Cubs must've really been awful because only 14,981 showed up to Wrigley Field that day. Too bad, because a few thousand more people could've been able to say, "I was there when the greatest hitting catcher of all-time played his first game."

Batting 6th in the Dodgers lineup, Piazza drew a walk in the 2nd inning off of pitcher Mike Harkey. In the 4th, he didn't give Harkey a chance to pitch around him, lining a double to right-center, the quintessential Piazza hit. In the bottom half of the inning, Dwight Smith attempted to steal second. Maybe you could get away with that stuff in 2002, but not on this day: Piazza gunned him down. In the 6th, he singled between third and short, and then did the same off Paul Assenmacher in the 8th. After that, he was lifted for pinch runner Eric Young. The game would last 13 innings, but in Piazza's 8, he went 3-for-3 with a walk, double, and threw out the only baserunner who tried to steal. Not too shabby.

Before moving on to the top 50 pitchers for 2010-14, here's a look at the pitchers who missed the cut:

The prospects: Trevor Cahill, Neftali Feliz, Brett Anderson, Chris Tillman, Jarrod Parker, Brett Cecil

Cahill was the very last cut from the list. That he's fanned just 19 in 48 2/3 innings as a major leaguer did hurt his cause a bit, but he has plenty of stuff and he really should be in Double-A right now.

The relievers: Carlos Marmol, Joakim Soria, Jonathan Papelbon, Francisco Rodriguez, Ryan Madson

That's how I'd rank the next five behind Jonathan Broxton, the only reliever to make the top 50.

The tumblers: Fausto Carmona, Ricky Nolasco, Ervin Santana, Chien-Ming Wang, Scott Kazmir

All five of these guys would have made the top 50 at the start of the year. Carmona has failed to bounce back from a very rough 2008, but at least his problem seems to be between his ears. Santana is trying to pitch with a torn elbow ligament, and Tommy John surgery still looks like a real possibility, while Kazmir's stuff has been on an obvious decline for a year now. ... Of the five, Nolasco's stock has dropped the least. He's healthy, and his problems this season were due in part to bad luck and bad defense.

The up and comers: Edwin Jackson, John Lannan, Wandy Rodriguez, Phil Hughes, Kevin Slowey

I'm not completely sold on Jackson or Rodriguez or both would be in the top 50. Jackson, though, has always had the stuff, and Rodriguez's command has come a long way. ... Lannan lags behind when it comes to stuff, but he gets an awful lot of grounders and he should prove to be pretty durable.

The veterans: Mark Buehrle, Aaron Cook, Gil Meche, Roy Oswalt, Aaron Harang

Buehrle would have made the top 50 if there were any indication that he was motivated to pitch into his mid-30s. The 30-year-old left-hander has indicated that he could all it quits after 2011. ... The 32-year-old Oswalt is another who might hang 'em up prior to 2014.

Over the next five days, I'm going to rank my top 50 pitchers for 2010-2014. Money is not an issue. Durability is. The rankings are not done with fantasy value in mind, though I hope keeper leaguers will still find it useful. The included ages are as of Apr. 1, 2010.

50. A.J. Burnett (33 - Yankees) - Burnett's stuff is about as good as ever, so it doesn't figure that he'll succumb to age at any point during the five-year, $82.5 million contract he received from the Yankees over the winter. It's more of a matter of whether he'll provide four mostly healthy seasons in the five-year span. Burnett has made 30 starts twice and pitched 200 innings three times in his major league career. That he hasn't had any problems of late gets him a spot here, if only barely. He's rather overrated even when healthy.

49. Derek Holland (23 - Rangers) - In making his major league debut after just one Triple-A start last month, Holland brought with him perhaps the best fastball for a lefty starter seen since CC Sabathia entered the league. The rest of his arsenal isn't quite as strong as Clayton Kershaw's and he'll have a tougher road than most young pitchers while pitching for the Rangers, but he could be a long-term No. 2.

48. Joe Saunders (28 - Angels) - Saunders has the worst strikeout rate of anyone on the list, but he's won 23 games and posted a 3.35 ERA in 40 starts since the beginning of last season. He has a perfectly legitimate 88-92 mph fastball, and his changeup has made him plenty effective against righties. Remarkably, he hasn't had a single injury of significance since missing 2003 with a torn rotator cuff that originally figured to derail his career.

47. Jonathan Broxton (25 - Dodgers) - The lone reliever on the list. Carlos Marmol and Jonathan Papelbon were close, and Joakim Soria probably would have made it if not for his shoulder problems. Broxton, who has a 1.17 ERA and a .092 average against so far this year, gets the edge because of his durability.

46. Chris Carpenter (34 - Cardinals) - Carpenter was the NL's most effective pitcher in a three-year span from 2004-06. He's pitched a total of 44 1/3 innings since, but he's back now and looking about as good as ever. He makes for one of the toughest calls in the top 50. Given that he turns 35 next April, there's little chance that five more healthy seasons are on the way. However, he's such a terrific pitcher that two or three 32-start seasons could justify his presence.

45. James Shields (28 - Rays) - Shields has more than survived in a tough division for pitchers, going 35-28 with a 3.92 ERA in 95 starts since debuting in 2006. He has great command, and his excellent changeup makes him tough on lefties. I don't see him possessing any further upside, but durability is a big point in his favor. He's never had any arm problems, and that he rarely has to deal with long innings should help him stay healthy.

44. Daisuke Matsuzaka (29 - Red Sox) - Leading the AL in walks didn't prevent Matsuzaka from finishing third in ERA last season. Dice-K has struck out 8.5 batters per nine innings and limited hitters to a .236 average as a major leaguer. He has quite a bit more mileage on his arm than the typical pitcher his age, so it does remain to be seen whether he'll be able to keep it going in his 30s. He'll likely he held under 170 innings again this year after missing time with shoulder fatigue.

43. Max Scherzer (25 - Diamondbacks) - Some projected Scherzer as a closer after he was selected 11th overall in the 2006 draft, but he's a definite top-of-the-rotation talent. It's concerns about whether his arm will hold up in the rotation that keep him out of the top 30 here. Scherzer battled shoulder problems last year and gave the Diamondbacks another scare when he had some soreness there over the winter. If it looks like he's not going to be able to make 30 starts per year, the team may yet have to turn him into a closer.

42. Ben Sheets (31 - FA) - Sheets' reputation for getting hurt doesn't quite match up with the facts: he's made 34 starts three times and he made 31 last year. 2009 will be just the second season of his nine-year career in which he hasn't made at least 22 starts, and 2003 was the last year in which he wasn't clearly an above average starter while on the mound. The torn flexor tendon that's causing him to miss most of this year shouldn't cause any problems in 2010 and beyond, and all of the time off will likely do his shoulder some good.

41. Clay Buchholz (25 - Red Sox) - After a lost year in 2008, Buchholz has recaptured the form that helped him throw a no-hitter in his second major league start on Sept. 1, 2007. He's currently 2-1 with a 1.60 ERA, 23 H and 42/12 K/BB in 39 1/3 IP for Triple-A Pawtucket. Buchholz has three above average major league pitches in his low-90s fastball, curve and changeup. He lacks maturity and he's too easily rattled for someone who should be a future ace, but like Burnett, he could be a big-time asset while still never truly pitching up to his potential.

40. Tim Hudson (34 - Braves) - A sharp decline in his first two years in the NL suggested that Hudson was done as a top starter, but he bounced back to go 27-17 with a 3.27 ERA in 2007 and the first two-thirds of 2008. Tommy John surgery has kept him out since, but he's made steady progress and he could return to help the Braves in August.

39. Edinson Volquez (26 - Reds) - Volquez dials it up to 95 mph and has one of the best fastball-changeup combinations in baseball. Command woes have made him a six-inning pitcher for the most part, but he did finished eighth in the NL in ERA and tied for second in strikeouts last year. Unfortunately, he's gone from walking 4.3 batters per nine innings then to 5.7 this year. Especially with Dusty Baker at the helm, he's going to have to become more efficient if he expects to survive.

38. Ubaldo Jimenez (26 - Rockies) - Unlike Volquez, Jimenez seems to be going in the right direction. He walked 4.7 batters per nine innings last year, but he's improved to 4.1 this year and he's been especially good lately. In five starts this month, he has a 2.38 ERA and a 29/7 K/BB ratio. Jimenez throws 93-97 mph and has a quality slider for a second pitch. He had some significant arm injuries early on in his pro career, but nothing since 2004.

37. Madison Bumgarner (20 - Giants) - The Giants have another potential ace on the way, and this one is a left-hander. Bumgarner is 6-1 with a 1.06 ERA and a 44/8 K/BB ratio in 42 1/3 innings between Single-A San Jose and Double-A Connecticut. The 10th overall pick in the 2007 draft throws 93-96 mph and shows a pretty good slider. His changeup is a work in progress. His only other flaw -- the fact that he's a big flyball pitcher -- won't be a major issue in AT&T Park. He could debut this summer if the Giants stay in contention.

36. Tommy Hanson (23 - Braves) - After coming in at 5:1 in the Arizona Fall League, Hanson has had to settle for just about 2.5 strikeouts for every hit allowed in Triple-A this year. He's 3-3 with a 1.51 ERA, 30 H and 73/15 K/BB in 53 2/3 innings. His ability to work deep into games remains in question, and it also remains to be seen whether major league hitters will be as baffled by his curve as minor leaguers. Fortunately, his slider has gotten a lot better, giving him another legitimate weapon when he can't throw his curve for strikes. I still think he's more of a future No. 2 than a true ace.

35. Cliff Lee (31 - Indians) - I would have had a more difficult time putting the 2008 AL Cy Young Award winner in such a top 50 over the winter, but since an ugly spring and a rough first two starts, he's settled right back in as one of the league's best pitchers. In his last eight turns, he has a 1.86 ERA and a 39/9 K/BB ratio.

34. Joba Chamberlain (24 - Yankees) - Chamberlain, on the other hand, would have been in the top 20 on this list three months ago. He was plenty impressive in his 12 starts last year, going 3-1 with a 2.76 ERA and a 74/25 K/BB ratio in 65 1/3 innings. However, it seems like he's been hesitant to cut loose this year. In trying to pace himself, he hasn't been any good at all early in starts. I certainly don't think it's time to move him back to the pen. However, it would be something to consider for 2010 if he fails to progress. I think we will see improvement as the year goes on.

33. Jair Jurrjens (24 - Braves) - With little more than an average strikeout rate, middling walk and groundball rates and an unremarkable 90-93 mph fastball, Jurrjens shouldn't be this good. Yet he finished with a 3.68 ERA as a 22-year-old last season and he's at 2.07 through his first 10 starts of 2009. White it looks like he's pitching over his head, there's also no reason to think he'll fall apart anytime soon. His changeup and slider are both above average offerings, and he does a great job of keeping hitters guessing. The only thing he still needs to prove is that he can throw 200-220 innings a year. He wore down at the end of 2008, but, again, he was just 22.

32. Derek Lowe (36 - Braves) - Yes, I do believe the Braves are in pretty good shape going forward, though it's not a given that Hudson will be back in 2010. Lowe is the oldest pitcher in the top 50, but he's a good bet to keep racking up 200-inning seasons; not once in his 13 seasons has he been on the disabled list. That fact lifts him over some of the more talented pitchers behind him.

31. Carlos Zambrano (28 - Cubs) - Zambrano is still a week away from his 28th birthday, but I wonder if his best days aren't already behind him. He had some shoulder problems last year, and his velocity has declined a bit through the years. I'd feel better about things if he can maintain the stronger strikeout rate he's displayed so far this year. He went from 8.8 K/9 IP in 2006 to 7.4 in 2007 and 6.2 in 2008. He's back up to 8.4 right now, but it's only been seven starts. 

30. Chris Volstad (23 - Marlins) - With his strikeout rate well up and his walk rate down, Volstad's about 20 spots higher now than he would have been at the start of the year. If not for a fluky home run rate -- he's given up 11 in 61 innings, even though he's still getting an above average number of grounders -- his ERA could be quite a bit lower than 3.69. Apparently, he used up all of his luck last year, when he had a 2.88 ERA and a 1.33 WHIP. His WHIP is 1.13 this season.

29. Matt Garza (25 - Rays) - Garza's ERA hasn't changed a bit since 2007 -- it's been right at 3.70 -- but his average against has gone from .294 to .245 to .200 so far this season. A true power pitcher, Garza alternates fastballs, sliders and curves. That he's been trying to avoid contact has resulted in higher pitch counts, but he appears built to last. The only arm problem he's had as a pro was some nerve irritation early on in 2008.

28. John Danks (24 - White Sox) - Danks was quietly one of the AL's best pitchers as a 23-year-old last season, going 12-9 with a 3.32 ERA and 159 strikeouts in 195 innings. His ERA is up this year, but so is his strikeout rate and he's been effective in six of his nine starts. Along with a quality fastball for a left-hander, he has a very good changeup that has made him more effective against righties than lefties over the course of his career. He's yet to establish himself as a 210-220 inning guy, but he has time on his side.

27. Adam Wainwright (28 - Cardinals) - Since moving from the pen to the rotation to begin 2007, Wainwright has gone 30-17 with a 3.45 ERA in 62 starts. I don't think he has much additional upside, but with one of the NL's best curveballs at his disposal, he could keep this up for several more years.

26. Jon Lester (26 - Red Sox) - It's been an awfully odd year for Lester. Even when he was a below average major league starter in 2006 and 2007, he seemed to have a special knack for pitching himself out of jams, allowing him to maintain respectable ERAs despite poor WHIPs. In 10 starts this year, he's already had five innings in which the opponents have scored at least four runs, leaving him with a 6.07 ERA. He's fanned 62 in 59 1/3 innings and he's throwing harder than ever before, so it's not a matter of stuff. He'll probably turn it around before long.

25. Francisco Liriano (26 - Twins) - Liriano's velocity has come back only a bit in his second year back from Tommy John surgery, leaving him down about three mph from where he was during his brilliant rookie season in 2006. I don't doubt that he can and will be an effective pitcher while throwing 91 mph, but he's still working to adapt, as evidenced by his current 6.42 ERA. My biggest concern is that more injuries are on the way. He battled shoulder problems several times before blowing out his elbow.

24. Matt Cain (25 - Giants) - Only his ERA suggests that Cain is having a breakthrough season, as his WHIP, average against and K/BB ratio are all weaker than usual. Still, this is right about where I would have put him at the start of the year. Even though he's working on his fourth full season as a major leaguer, he's younger than Tim Lincecum. He doesn't give up many homers, and he's always maintained a strong strikeout rate. The big knock against him is that he's no better now than he was when he entered the league.

23. Jordan Zimmermann (23 - Nationals) - Great command of a legitimate 93-mph fastball and a four-pitch arsenal should make Zimmermann a quality No. 2 starter for a long time. He's not making a big case for Rookie of the Year honors yet with a 5.71 ERA in seven starts, but he's struck out 39 and walked just 12 in 41 innings.

22. John Lackey (31 - Angels) - Back-to-back years kicked off by elbow woes have taken a toll on Lackey's ranking here. He was just about as effective as usual in his 24 starts after returning in 2008, and he seems to have recovered his velocity already after missing the first 5 ½ weeks of 2009. However, it remains to be seen whether he'll be able to reemerge as a workhorse after pitching so much from 2002-07.

21. Stephen Strasburg (21 - San Diego St.) - Strasburg will be taken by the Nationals with the first overall pick in the 2009 draft. He's very likely ready for the majors now, but the smart move would be to tell him to take the rest of this year off and get ready for 2010. The 20-year-old right-hander has gone 13-0 with a 1.24 ERA and a 180/19 K/BB ratio in 102 innings for the Aztecs. He can throw in the high-90s, his slider will be one of the best in baseball and his changeup shows promise. It was hard to resist putting him in the top 15.

20. Josh Beckett (29 - Red Sox) - Having made 99 starts since the beginning of 2006, Beckett has been a rather durable pitcher as a member of the Red Sox. However, he only pitched like an ace in 2007, though that season nearly got him a Cy Young Award. His ERA jumped to 4.03 last year, and he's at 4.60 though 10 starts this season. Part of it is bad defense, but he is walking more batters that usual. All in all, he's a pretty borderline choice for the top 20. However, it's quite possible that he'll be better in his 30s than he's been in his 20s. For someone who debuted in the majors at 21, he doesn't have a ton of mileage on his arm.

19. Johnny Cueto (24 - Reds) - Cueto opened the year as the Reds' No. 4 starter, but he's the ace now. He's lasted at least seven innings in seven straight starts and is 4-2 with a 2.37 ERA. Cueto has very good command of a 91-94 mph fastball, and right-handers hardly seem to have a chance against his slider. A better changeup would be nice, but he's plenty good as is.

18. Jake Peavy (28 - Padres) - It's not at all fair to call Peavy a Petco creation, but he has a 3.84 ERA and a 1.30 WHIP outside of San Diego in his career. Also, there are serious concerns about how his shoulder is going to hold up. His stuff hasn't gotten any worse through the years, but he's often battled minor problems and it is likely that he's currently pitching with damage in the shoulder. He's not going to have five more healthy seasons in a row.

17. Justin Verlander (27 - Tigers) - Possessing one of the game's very best fastballs didn't make Verlander an effective pitcher in 2008 or in the first month of 2009, but since opening the year 0-2 with a 9.00 ERA in four starts, he's allowed four runs and struck out 60 batters in 42 1/3 innings. All of the inconsistency makes him awfully tough to rank, but he was a clear top-10 starter going into 2008 and he's looking better than ever right now.

16. Josh Johnson (26 - Marlins) - Johnson was viewed as a future No. 3 starter during his days as a prospect, but his fastball has gotten better every year and he's now one of baseball's hardest-throwing starters. He never missed a beat after returning from Tommy John surgery, and he's pitching like a Cy Young candidate this year, though his defense and lack of run support will probably prove too much to overcome in the end.

15. Erik Bedard (31 - Mariners) - Back with a vengeance after a 2008 season ruined by a cyst in his shoulder, Bedard has gone 3-2 with a 2.48 ERA to date in his final season before free agency. He hasn't lost anything off his fastball or curve, which is one of the league's best breaking balls, but he really could use a 200-inning season before he puts himself up for bid. His career high is 196 1/3 innings, established in 2006.

14. Clayton Kershaw (22 - Dodgers) - While I broke the list down by tens, when I really see here is, well, let's call it a Fantastic Fourteen. Kershaw is closer to the top 10 than he is to Bedard at No. 15. That he is the last pitcher in the group is mostly a result of me being worried about his durability. There are no obvious red flags, but Kershaw is quite wild and he can rack up big pitch counts in a hurry if he's not being watched extremely closely. The Dodges are still being very careful with him now -- he's topped 100 pitches only three times this year, with a high of 112 in an outing in which he was dominant -- but they will take the kid gloves off at some point within the next couple of years.

13. Dan Haren (29 - Diamondbacks) - Haren seems well on his way to making 33 starts and throwing at least 215 innings for a fifth straight season. He has the least impressive fastball of anyone in the top 20, but his splitter is an excellent strikeout pitch and his command continues to improve. With Brandon Webb sidelined, Haren should start to be recognized as one of the game's very best pitchers.

12. CC Sabathia (29 - Yankees) - The 512 innings he threw between 2007 and 2008 haven't taken a major toll yet. Sabathia's strikeout rate is down in his first year with the Yankees, but it has bounced back lately and he's still throwing as hard as he has at any point in the last half-dozen years. If he does have an off year at some point, it will likely be blamed on his ever increasing belly. He likely will have to commit to getting into better shape one of these years, but worse athletes have remained excellent pitchers into their mid-30s.

11. Rick Porcello (21 - Tigers) - A fine sinkerballer at age 20, Porcello could yet develop into a 160-180 strikeout guy if need be. He's talented enough to succeed in any number of ways. With the Tigers keeping him on fairly strict pitch counts, he's just trying to pound his fastball at the knees and get grounders right now. If success with that method proves fleeting, he can go with more high fastballs and curves out of the zone. He's a terrific bet for the long term even if he goes on to stumble some this year.

10. David Price (24 - Rays) - The first overall pick in the 2007 draft burst onto the scene in the second half of September last season and turned into one of the Rays' most trusted relievers in the postseason. He just this week returned to the majors, as the Rays weren't willing to carry him from the start of the year and put him on 200-inning pace. Dealing with a severely limited pitch count, he's been quite inconsistent this year. However, he has a dominant mid-90s fastball-slider combination when he's on. If his changeup comes along with experience, he'll be one of the game's best pitchers. Even if it doesn't, he should be very good anyway.

9. Yovani Gallardo (24 - Brewers) - Gallardo has proven to be a remarkably solid pitcher at a very young age. The question is whether he has the same kind of ceiling as the other pitchers in the top 14. He throws 90-93 mph and relies a great deal on a curve that gets him a lot of his strikeouts. It's going to be tough for him to take his game up another notch without a better changeup. Of course, if he just stays at this level, he'll be in the top 10 in the NL in ERA every year. Missing most of 2008 with a knee injury may pay off in the long run, as it saved significant wear and tear on his arm in what was his age-22 season. I think he has a better chance of staying healthy than most of the other under-25 pitchers here.

8. Chad Billingsley (25 - Dodgers) - The Dodgers have jerked Billingsley around a bit in his young career, but it's never stopped him from progressing. His ERA has dropped from 3.80 as a rookie to 3.31 in 2007 to 3.14 last year and 2.82 so far this season. Billingsley possesses the build of a workhorse, plenty of movement on his fastball and a strikeout curve. His command is below average, but all of the other pieces are in place for him to serve as a top starter for a long time.

7. Zack Greinke (26 - Royals) - With a 90-mph fastball, excellent command and a strong array of pitches, Greinke was compared to Greg Maddux after being drafted sixth overall in 2002. That didn't work out, but there's no shame in being the new Bret Saberhagen instead. Greinke typically works at 92-95 mph these days, and he can throw strikes with the best of him. 2009 may well go down as his career year, but unlike Saberhagen, he won't be asked to throw 260 innings. He'll have a much better chance of holding up for the long haul.

6. Cole Hamels (26 - Phillies) - Health is the big question with Hamels, who pitched the Phillies to a championship last year. It took him 262 innings to get it done, though, and he developed some elbow soreness this spring that caused the Phillies to go slowly with him. He also missed time in 2006 with a strained shoulder and 2007 with a strained elbow. Before arriving in the majors, he missed much of 2004 with elbow woes and had back problems. Last year was proof that he can stay healthy and perform as a Cy Young candidate for a full year. Now he just needs to do it again a few more times.

5. Brandon Webb (30 - Diamondbacks) - Obviously, this isn't a good time to be ranking Webb. The injury that's sidelined him since the beginning of April has been labeled bursitis, which suggests that there will be no long-term ramifications. However, there's clearly something more going on in his shoulder. We now know that there were significant concerns raised over a physical Webb had last summer and that he was examined by Dr. James Andrews over the winter. If it were just bursitis, Webb would be two spots higher here. If I knew of a tear somewhere in his shoulder, he'd be at least 10 spots lower.

4. Felix Hernandez (23 - Mariners) - Even in his fourth season, King Felix still hasn't become the pitcher everyone expected. But it's well worth nothing that he's actually eight months younger than Price and he already has 44 victories to his credit. He's become much more of a pitcher in the way he battles hitters, especially when he's working with men on base. That has more to do with his velocity drop than any arm problems. Of course, he still throws quite a bit harder than most and both his slider and curve are legitimate strikeout pitches. If he continues to stay healthy -- and the Mariners have done a fine job of taking care of him -- it's only a matter of time until he puts it all together and becomes a Cy Young candidate.

3. Roy Halladay (32 - Blue Jays) - When Halladay was limited to 21 starts in 2004 and 19 in 2005 and then spent much of 2006 pitching through forearm issues, it looked like he might not remain an ace into his 30s. However, after a disappointing season in 2007, he suddenly reemerged as the AL's best pitcher in 2008. Sure, Cliff Lee won the Cy Young, but Halladay, who had to deal with a tougher schedule, would have been at least as good of a choice. He's been just as good so far this year, and it doesn't look like he'll begin to fade again anytime soon.

2. Johan Santana (31 - Mets) - Santana averaged 230 innings per year from 2004-08, so it's of no surprise that his velocity has declined a bit. Still, he's quite likely baseball's best pitcher anyway, and he'll probably remain outstanding even if he's working at 88-90 mph by the time he's 35. That's because he has outstanding command and one of baseball's very best changeups.

1. Tim Lincecum (25 - Giants) - It'll be years before I stop cringing every time the Giants let Lincecum approach 130 pitches. However, there is the real possibility that the kid is simply a freak. He has a delivery unlike anyone else, he has a very modest build and he doesn't ice his arm, yet he's never had any problems. For what it's worth, his velocity is down a bit this year, though it's bounced back a bit recently. The results have been outstanding since two poor outings to begin the year. Hopefully, he'll rack up 230-inning seasons for years without incident.

- After nine straight losses on the road, the Blue Jays finally return home tonight. Unfortunately, they'll be facing the Red Sox, who started off Toronto's losing streak with a three-game sweep at Fenway last week. The winning pitcher in the first game of that series, Tim Wakefield, will be back on the mound for this one. He allowed one run over eight innings in his previous start against the Jays, and he's 6-2 with a 3.99 ERA for the season, making him Boston's most effective pitcher so far. The Blue Jays will give Casey Janssen his second start of the year. Janssen, making his way back from shoulder surgery, allowed three runs over six innings in a loss to Atlanta six days ago.

- The surging Yankees will start a series tonight in Cleveland, where the Indians just pulled off a four-game sweep of the Rays. Andy Pettitte gets the nod for the Yankees against one of only two AL teams he's under .500 against in his career (Seattle being the other). The Indians will go to Cliff Lee, who beat the Yankees on April 16 for one of his two victories so far this season. Aside from that game, which Cleveland won 10-2, the Indians have totaled 19 runs in Lee's nine starts.

Game of the Night

St. Louis vs. San Francisco - A pair of five-game winners will square off in San Francisco, with Joel Pineiro going against Matt Cain. Pineiro is inducing grounders at a league-best rate, but he's lost four of his last five starts anyway, partly due to poor run support. He has a shutout and five other quality starts in nine trips to the mound this season. Cain has won his last two outings and has seven quality starts to his credit. However, he is 0-1 with a 9.58 ERA in two career starts against the Cardinals. Albert Pujols has a homer and a double in five career at-bats against him.

As if things weren't bad enough in Colorado, the Rockies have gone and replaced the mediocre Clint Hurdle with the incompetent Jim Tracy.

Tracy's resume includes a 562-572 record, which is exactly the kind of near-.500 record the Rockies have aspired to achieve in most of their years in existence. He got that record by taking the NL West's most talented team in the Dodgers to the postseason once in five years. After being let go by Los Angeles, he quickly landed the job in Pittsburgh and went 135-189 in two seasons before being ousted.

Tracy plays favorites, as Chris Duffy and Nate McLouth can attest. He loves his smallball, regardless of the composition of this team. In 2003, his Dodgers got a combined .242/.300/.317 line out of their top two hitters, who combined to score 150 runs all season. When Hee Seop Choi thrived as a No. 2 hitter in 2005, Tracy refused to leave him there, going to such players as Oscar Robles, Jason Repko and Antonio Perez instead.

Bullpen management, at least, looked like a strength early in Tracy's career. However, he never got a whole lot out of a Pittsburgh pen that featured Matt Capps, Salomon Torres, John Grabow, Damaso Marte and Mike Gonzalez for the first year.

If the Rockies fail to turn it around, Tracy's stay could be a short one. GM Dan O'Dowd has to be on a short leash now, and if the Rockies make a change there over the winter, the new GM will likely want to bring in a manager of his own.

The White Sox were able to get Carlos Quentin at a discount from the Diamondbacks last offseason because he was coming off shoulder surgery, but he's had different injury problems since arriving in Chicago.

Gambling on Quentin's health paid huge dividends for the White Sox last season, as he hit .288/.394/.571 with 36 homers and 100 RBIs in 130 games to finish fifth in the AL MVP balloting. However, he missed the final month of the season and the playoffs with a broken wrist.

Quentin got off to a strong start this year, hitting .253/.374/.587 with eight homers in April to show that his wrist was no longer an issue. Unfortunately, he began having problems with his left foot once the calendar flipped to May and has been in and out of the lineup for the past three weeks while going 11-for-56 (.196) with zero homers.

After saying last week that he planned to simply play through the pain, Quentin felt a "pop" in his foot while running the bases Monday and hasn't played since. He left the team to have his foot examined by doctors back in Chicago and the White Sox placed Quentin on the disabled list this afternoon.

Chicago has scored the second-fewest runs in the league and replacing Quentin's big bat with the likes of Scott Podsednik and DeWayne Wise certainly won't help matters. His injury, plantar fasciitis, is more common among NBA players and often leads to long stretches on the sidelines because playing through the pain typically proves extremely difficult.

Last week general manager Kenny Williams made an unsuccessful run at Jake Peavy, but with the White Sox now sitting in fourth place at 21-25 and facing life without Quentin it may be time for the reigning AL Central champions to shift gears with an eye toward 2010 and beyond.

* Gordon Beckham played primarily shortstop at Double-A, but moved to third base for his final game there and stayed at the hot corner last night in his Triple-A debut.

I've been assuming that the White Sox view Beckham as the long-term answer at second base and they've gotten the AL's third-worst production from the position, but perhaps they're more interested in ditching third baseman Josh Fields, who's hitting .229/.293/.314 with poor defense.

* Chris Davis is striking out more often than any player in baseball history and he's hitting just .203/.259/.456 in the process, so the Rangers are running out of patience. Davis is batting .368 with 12 homers in 87 at-bats when he makes contact, but he's whiffed in an amazing 41.7 percent of his plate appearances.

* Cecil Cooper's job might be safe for a while longer, but the Denver Post reports that Rockies manager Clint Hurdle is "on borrowed time."

* In case you haven't heard, the Matt Wieters Era begins tonight in Baltimore. Based on the hype, he should have the Orioles in first place by Monday.

* After being part of umpire Todd Tichenor's ejection-fest yesterday afternoon, Red Sox manager Terry Francona "was examined by emergency medical technicans to check on his blood pressure."

According to the Dallas Morning News, earlier this week a female Rangers fan wearing a "Yankees Suck" t-shirt was asked to either turn it inside out or leave the ballpark ... in Texas.

But wait, it gets better. Kristen Knapp-Webb was at the Rangers-Yankees game celebrating her 19th wedding anniversary and her husband Walter had given her the shirt as an anniversary present. All of which puts her in contention for "Wife of the Year" honors.

Anyway, security approached the happy couple before the game and informed them that they considered her shirt "profane." I'm assuming that they meant the "suck" part and not the "Yankees" part, but you never know. Here's what Rangers spokesperson John Blake said afterward:

That particular phrase is one we've received a lot of complaints about. That kind of thing is offensive to a lot of people, especially if you have young children and that kind of thing. And I think that's why we have that policy.

As someone who has this t-shirt in his closet--here's proof, if you don't believe me--I'm perhaps somewhat biased on this topic, but the notion of protecting "young children" from seeing the word "suck" on a piece of clothing seems fairly ridiculous. After all, the Morning News has no problem putting "Yankees Suck" in the story's headline, and presumably more children read the newspaper than a woman's t-shirt.

Plus, raising children to hate the Yankees is part of what makes America great.

Astros owner Drayton McLane, on speculation that manager Cecil Cooper is on the verge of being fired:

Firing the manager is not in the cards. He's only been the manager for a year and a half. I think that's somewhat premature. When you're real good that doesn't last forever. When you're playing real bad that doesn't last forever. That's not in the cards. We've got to work through this.

McLane's comments are particularly interesting because earlier this week general manager Ed Wade refused to "play the vote of confidence game" when asked if Cooper's job status was in question. Here's exactly what Wade said at the time:

I've been a GM now for 10 years. I don't get into votes of confidence. I don't think there's any value to it. In 10 years as GM, I never asked for votes of confidence, and I've never given votes of confidence. It's just media speak and doesn't lend anything to the situation.

Wade is right that a "vote of confidence" is basically meaningless, except the fact that it's even an issue tends to signal that a manager is very close to being fired. Obviously the owner of a team saying that "firing the manager is not in the cards" is a pretty strong indication that Cooper's job is safe in the short term, but the Astros are in last place at 18-27 and the clubhouse appears to be unraveling.

According to Jose Ortiz of the Houston Chronicle, Cooper "has lost a great portion of his clubhouse's support and with some players even their respect." Ortiz reports that earlier this week one Astros player told him: "It's going to be Coop or me soon. Just watch."

Diamondbacks ace Brandon Webb has been sidelined with a strained shoulder muscle since struggling in his Opening Day start, but played catch from 120 feet earlier this week and said yesterday that he's still hoping to return before the All-Star break.

Before he can think about rejoining Arizona's rotation Webb will have to stretch his arm out to throwing from 150 feet, progress to pitching off a mound, throw several bullpen sessions, and then complete a minor-league rehab assignment.

In other words, he's still facing a long road back. Or as Webb put it: "You can't just start going into games right away. You've got to build your arm up."

Arizona has filled Webb's spot in the rotation with Yusmeiro Petit, Billy Buckner, and Bryan Augenstein, who've combined to post a 6.80 ERA while the team goes 2-7 in nine starts. If you assume for a moment that a healthy Webb would have reversed those figures with the team going 7-2 in his starts, the Diamondbacks could be sitting at 26-22 right now and Bob Melvin would probably still be managing.

Unfortunately instead they're holding the fourth-worst record in the league at 21-27 and even if Webb is able to return by the All-Star break the Diamondbacks will likely be completely out of the NL West picture (they're already 12.5 games back of the Dodgers) and may also be trailing by double-digit games in Wild Card race (they're 6.0 games behind the Brewers right now).

Matt Wieters' debut in Baltimore tonight is getting all of the attention, but let us not lose sight of the fact that the man whose job he is taking -- Gregg Zaun -- is himself a megastar.

Don't believe me? Just check out his website, which is not the sort of thing you'd expect for a journeyman catcher with a .383 slugging percentage. If aliens came from outerspace and saw that thing they'd think he was some sort of demi-god. A warning, though: if you're at work -- or if the prog-rock stylings of Rush aren't your cup of tea -- you may want to turn your volume down before clicking.

I wonder what song Matt Wieters will put on his website . . .

(thanks to reader JohnnyNebraska for the heads up)

Lar at Wezen-Ball takes a look back at an article from 1997 that, in turn, takes a look back at Carl Yastrzemski's 1967 Triple Crown. This quote from Yaz floored me:

". . . being in the pennant race, I was so focused that I didn't know I had won it until the next day. There wasn't any media attention on the Triple Crown. None whatsoever. It was the first time Boston had been in a pennant race in a long time, and everything and everyone was focused on it.'"

Could you imagine what would happen today if a player even entered mid-August with leads in all three of the triple crown categories? ESPN would embed reporters in the field, talk radio would go absolutely crazy, and the Internets would probably explode. I can't even conceive of there being minor coverage, let alone none.

Beyond that, Lar has some good analysis regarding the odds of someone winning the triple crown today. I think he's right when he notes that hitters are more specialized today, with teams having a much greater tolerance for power hitters who strike out a lot, which in turn, drastically lowers their shot at a batting title, especially with slap hitter like Freddy Sanchez and Ichiro hanging around. Lar thinks that, among current players, Mauer and Pujols have the best shot of winning it. I can't say I disagree, though I think the window will be closing on Pujols's chances fairly quickly.

Anyway, good stuff as always from Wezen-Ball.

Jayson Stark has a column up over at ESPN gong in depth with Terry Francona and Charlie Manuel about how they're dealing with struggling veterans David Ortiz and Jamie Moyer. There's an extended bit lauding Francona for his diplomacy and tenderness and whatever when it came to dropping Papi in the order:

So what does a manager do when he wakes up on Memorial Day and finds a guy like that who ranks 86th (out of 88) among AL qualifiers in batting average (.195), has a lower slugging percentage (.299) than Endy Chavez and has fewer homers (one) than Yovani Gallardo? Well, Terry Francona already knew what he was going to do. He'd known for days, he said. But he also knew there was a respectful time and place to drop Big Papi out of the No. 3 hole, and a weekend series against the Mets wasn't it . . .

. . . So Francona felt it was important to do more than just send Ortiz to "the penalty box." In the case of a player of this stature, the manager felt it was almost mandatory to keep him involved in the thought process involved in such a momentous decision. "When times are getting tough, you've got to make decisions," Francona said. "And everybody understands that. But there needs to be some loyalty there. There needs to be communicating -- how it gets back to everyone else, how you say it. I don't want him to think he's going through this by himself. Just because he's not hitting 50 homers, that doesn't mean we don't care about him."

That's sweet and all, but I can't for the life of me understand why the decision to drop Ortiz in the order has gotten as much coverage as it has in the last week, let alone Stark and Francona's treatment of it as some emotionally cathartic event. The exact order of the lineup really ain't that important folks, and if everyone thinks that Ortiz would have a hissy fit over where's he hitting in it, well, they haven't been paying much attention to David Ortiz's career. I can't recall him ever having tantrums over perceived slights, and he's almost always been a pro about this stuff. What's more, he's been way more out front about how he stinks this year than just about anyone.

No, the tough decision -- to which Stark only briefly alludes -- is how Francona would deal with actually benching Ortiz for an extended period or, even worse, how the club as a whole will deal with him if and when it becomes necessary to trade him or designate him for assignment. Which could definitely happen. This is the team that cuts bait in bad waters quicker than most, and it would not shock me in the least to see them do something drastic with Papi if he doesn't turn it around in the coming weeks.

People complained that the reviews of the Gary Sheffield and Daniel Murphy home runs this week took too long, with the former taking more than six minutes and the latter almost four minutes. I can understand the frustration, but you have to laud Major League Baseball for having its priorities in order:

"In the case you're talking about, the home run call on Sheffield, that one took about six minutes - just over six minutes. And the reason for that was because we were really trying to get clear and convincing evidence if we were going to overturn the call. So we were pulling up all the various camera angles that we had available to us, and it took us some time to discern whether or not that play could be overturned. Ultimately, the home run was upheld, but it took a little time. But we want to get the play right. The ultimate, ultimate, overriding concern is to get the play right."

Which it should be. We can argue about whether or not replay itself is a good idea, but if you're going to go with replay, there's no reason to rush it if it risks getting the call wrong.

Not that baseball shouldn't do what it can to speed up the process where it can. Indeed, based on some of the reviews we've seen, I can think of two things that would go a long way towards making replays as efficient as possible.

First: strongly discourage umpires from standing around trying to decide if a replay should be reviewed. During last week's Red Sox-Mets game, the umps held a conclave around third base for some time, apparently trying to determine if Youkilis' shot down the left field line should be reviewed. We all got pride, and umpires more than most of us, but really, it was obvious within about five seconds of the ball clearing the fence that there was a question as to whether it was fair or foul. End the conference, go watch the video, get the call right, and play ball.

Second: as we get more experience with replays, patterns are probably going to develop. We can imagine, for example, that given the stupid placement of the railing and advertisements on the upper deck at Citi Field, that more than a few disputed calls are going to occur there. Indeed, just about every park is going to have its own particular problem areas, and once they're identified, perhaps it would be worth installing some fixed cameras that focus specifically on those areas. Also, given that balls over the foul pole are going to be an issue, maybe baseball should install the same sort of camera that sits on every set of goal posts in the NFL.

Heck, they could even solicit sponsorships for the things. Based on the great publicity they're getting over the Murphy homer, Subway would probably pony up at this point.

The other day Yahoo!'s Gordon Edes was reporting that the Red Sox were scouting Jeff Francoeur. I kind of doubt it actually, given that Francoeur is pretty much the polar opposite of what Theo Epstein, Bill James and the rest of that gang in Boston looks for in a player. My guess: if Red Sox people were in Atlanta, they were advance scouting the Blue Jays.

But let's say it's true, and the Sox truly are interested in Failcouer. What should the Braves expect back for him? If I were Frank Wren I'd probably be happy with anything north of a kick to the groin, and I'd consider the kick to the groin for a good long while if it meant ditching Frenchy. But I'm not Frank Wren and I have a hard time handicapping trades. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution is stumped too, so they threw the question out to their readers. Among the actual responses they received were "A bag of beans"; "20 bats and they pay his ticket out of town"; "A ham sandwich to be named later"; "air"; and "Ortiz." I'm not sure whether that last one is a bigger insult to Big Papi or Francoeur. That ham sandwich offer seems pretty sweet though.

While this is an obviously unscientific survey, it does have some value: it challenges the assumption the Braves seem to have that local-boy Francoeur is some uber-popular guy in Atlanta who must be given more latitude to stink than other players are. He's not, and even the message board posters of the AJC -- where the worst of the Francoeur apologists tend to reside -- have turned on him.

What that means, I think, is that unless that offer of the ham sandwich -- or even the kick to the groin -- becomes available, Frank Wren has the cover to designate baseball's biggest out machine for assignment.

Red Sox 3, Twins 1: Varitek homers twice and gets run for getting up in the ump's face arguing balls and strikes. I can't criticize him; I like to go home early on days on which I get a lot done too. Mike Redmond, Terry Francona and Ron Gardenhire were also ejected, and I picture all four of them pounding the Budweiser together while watching the rest of the game on a plasma TV in one of the clubhouses. Oh, and the Captain is now at .248/.320/.541, which is more than respectable for a guy who was basically in a coffin this time last year.

Indians 2, Rays 1: The Rays were just swept 4-0 by one of the five or six worst teams in baseball, which I think relieves us all of the obligation of pretending they are one of the five or six best, as we have been since last year. And it could have been worse: thanks to a nearly three-hour rain delay, the Rays were spared from further embarrassment at the hands of a rookie starting pitcher who had an ERA of 17.55 entering the game. As it was, young David Huff shut Tampa Bay down for four innings, with a random assemblage of Cleveland's bullpen fodder coming in to finish off the job.

Orioles 5, Tigers 1: Let the record reflect that on this night, Greg Zaun joined (1) Chuck Diering; (2) Mark Belanger; and (3) the Earth, without form and void and darkness upon the face of the deep, as the last things which preceded an appearance of God in Baltimore.

Dodgers 2, Cubs 1: Another day, another multi-hit game for Juan Pierre. Randy Wolf was the real story, though, as he goes seven strong innings giving up a single run. The bullpen got out of a bases loaded jam in the ninth to preserve the win. Bobby Scales was sent down to Iowa on Wednesday and called back up yesterday because Ryan Freel went on the DL. Despite being jerked around, dude hit a homer, so the fairy tale continues.

Diamondbacks 5, Braves 2: Danny Haren allowed two runs and seven hits in eight innings, striking out eight and now has a K/BB ratio of 71/9 on the season. He's pretty good.

Brett Myers underwent an MRI exam on his hip Thursday and received bad news as it showed fraying and a possible tear in the labrum. He hasn't been placed on the disabled list as of this writing, but that seems inevitable after Myers revealed that "it sounds like surgery is almost 100 percent from the first opinion" and "they told me that my hip is f***ed up."

General manager Ruben Amaro Jr. indicated that the Phillies would be open to a trade to fill Myers' spot in the rotation if he's indeed done for the season, but also made it clear that they're more likely to replace him internally with Kyle Kendrick, Carlos Carrasco, Andrew Carpenter, or Antonio Bastardo. Carrasco is the team's top pitching prospect, but he's 0-6 with a 5.81 ERA in nine starts at Triple-A.

While the Phillies hope that a second opinion can provide better news for Myers, here are some other notes from around baseball ...

* Orioles right-hander David Hernandez made his MLB debut Thursday by giving up one run over 5.2 innings for a win against Detroit. Hernandez has never been highly touted as a prospect because of bad command, as he walked four batters per nine innings coming into this season. However, his strikeout rates have been fantastic and he showed signs of improved control prior to being called up.

Hernandez had a 2.93 ERA and 60/13 K/BB ratio in 43 innings spread over eight starts at Triple-A, giving him 595 strikeouts in 516 career innings. If the improved control is legit Hernandez becomes a very intriguing prospect, but he walked four of 25 batters Thursday while needing 108 pitches to record 17 outs. He's clearly worth keeping an eye on and the 24-year-old could have value in AL-only spots.

* Chris Ray missed all of last season following Tommy John surgery, but seemed to be doing reasonably well through his first 13 appearances this season, posting a 13/5 K/BB ratio in 11.1 innings. Things began to unravel for him last week and Ray allowed nine runs on seven hits and six walks over a four-inning stretch that earned him a trip back to the minors Thursday.

While his post-surgery struggles are discouraging, Ray still missed a fair amount of bats by whiffing 21 percent of his batters faced compared to 22 percent prior to going under the knife. His average fastball was clocked at 94.1 miles per hour after being 94.2, 94.8, and 94.7 from 2005-2007, so aside from command issues his stuff still seems plenty good. In other words, don't give up on him quite yet.

* Travis Hafner's comeback from a right shoulder injury was delayed for 3-4 days by rib soreness, but he resumed his minor-league rehab assignment Thursday at Triple-A by going 1-for-3 with a double and a walk. Assuming that he can avoid a setback while playing 2-3 more games at Columbus over the weekend, Hafner is on track to come off the disabled list Monday.

AL Quick Hits: After missing three weeks with a hamstring strain, Jorge Posada is slated to come off the disabled list Friday ... Victor Martinez drove in two runs Thursday, but his OPS dipped below 1.000 for the first time since the third game of the season ... Jason Varitek hit two homers off Anthony Swarzak before being ejected from Thursday's game, giving him 10 long balls in 133 at-bats after going deep 13 times in 423 at-bats last season ... Clete Thomas led off Thursday, with usual leadoff man Curtis Granderson batting fifth for Detroit ... Luke Scott had a pair of homers Thursday, making him 4-for-8 with three homers and seven RBIs in two games since coming off the shelf ... Josh Beckett whiffed eight over seven innings of one-run ball Thursday ... Jeremy Bonderman (shoulder) is scheduled to make another minor-league rehab start Sunday at Triple-A ... Jacoby Ellsbury went 0-for-3 to snap his 22-game hitting streak Thursday.

NL Quick Hits: Carlos Zambrano has been suspended six games for his amazing implosion Wednesday, so he'll miss one start ... Houston manager Cecil Cooper doesn't seem long for the job after general manager Ed Wade declined to give him a vote of confidence Thursday ... Dan Haren threw seven innings of two-run ball Thursday, slicing his ERA to 2.54 with a sparkling 71/9 K/BB ratio ... Anibal Sanchez (shoulder) tossed three scoreless innings in a minor-league rehab start Thursday at Single-A ... Randy Wolf keeps thriving in his second go-around with the Dodgers, holding the Cubs to one run in seven innings Thursday ... Jonathan Broxton was unavailable after throwing 38 pitches the previous game, so Ramon Troncoso picked up his third save Thursday ... Tom Glavine (shoulder) topped out in the mid-80s Thursday, but still had five shutout innings in a rehab start at Triple-A ... Xavier Paul (staph infection) has been released from the hospital, but is likely still several weeks from seeing game action.

1. Travis Wood (Reds) - 1.38
2. Chuck Lofgren (Indians) - 1.48
3. Troy Patton (Orioles) - 1.62
4. Cristhian Martinez (Marlins) - 1.84
5. Zach McAllister (Yankees) - 1.91
6. Brad Lincoln (Pirates) - 2.05
7. Hector Rondon (Indians) - 2.08
8. Brooks Brown (Tigers) - 2.21
9. Casey Lambert (Cubs) - 2.32
10. Trevor Bell (Angels) - 2.34
11. Henry Sosa (Giants) - 2.40
12. Jordan Smith (Reds) - 2.45

13. Travis Banwart (Athletics) - 2.47
14. Chris Cody (Brewers) - 2.49
15. Aaron Poreda (White Sox) - 2.58
16. Reidier Gonzalez (Blue Jays) - 2.62
17. James Avery (Reds) - 2.65
18. Kasey Kiker (Rangers) - 2.74
19. Junichi Tazawa (Red Sox) - 2.82
20. Vance Worley (Phillies) - 2.83

- Extra credit goes to Bell, Banwart and Kiker, the only Texas League pitchers on the list. Rounding out the top five for the more offensive-minded of the three leagues are Rockies prospects Samuel Deduno (2.98) and Esmil Rogers (3.00). Fellow Rockies prospect Jhoulys Chacin, probably the league's best pitching prospect, is at 3.49.

- Phillies prospect Antonio Bastardo is at 1.82 with a 39/7 K/BB ratio in 34 2/3 innings. He misses qualifying because of some time spent in the pen at the beginning of the season.

- Lofgren, considered one of the game's top left-handed prospects a couple of years ago, was left unprotected in the December Rule 5 draft because of some massive command woes. He wasn't picked, though, and he's turned his career around in a big way.

- One more little list. Here's the top five in strikeouts:

Marc Rzepczynski (Blue Jays) - 63
Jake Arrieta (Orioles) - 56
Aaron Poreda (White Sox) - 55
Junichi Tazawa (Red Sox) - 54
Sean West (Marlins) - 50

* It wasn't quite as eventful as Carlos Zambrano's implosion yesterday, but this afternoon's Twins-Red Sox game just saw home-plate umpire Todd Tichenor eject both starting catchers and both managers in the same inning, about five minutes apart.

Mike Redmond and Ron Gardenire were tossed in the top of the seventh after a borderline call at the plate went against the Twins and in the bottom of the frame Jason Varitek and Terry Francona were thrown out when Josh Beckett didn't like the strike zone. Beckett avoided Tichenor's wrath despite screaming obscenities from the mound by smartly turning his back and walking toward second base while Varitek took up the fight.

* The White Sox may not be ready to call up Gordon Beckham yet, but they did promote him to Triple-A yesterday. Beckham's final line at Double-A: .299/.366/.497 with four homers, 17 doubles, and a 24/14 K/BB ratio in 38 games.

* It took 180 plate appearances, but Bobby Abreu finally hit his first homer of the season. Now that Abreu and David Ortiz are both off the schneid, Russell Martin is the closest thing to a power hitter among the 17 guys who're still homerless with at least 100 trips to the plate.

* Now that David Price is in the Rays' rotation and Matt Wieters is due to arrive in Baltimore tomorrow, can Braves right-hander Tommy Hanson be very far behind?

* Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com projects the first 20 picks of this year's draft, which is less than two weeks away. You'll be absolutely shocked who he has as the No. 1 pick.

The "candlesticks scene" from Bull Durham has forever taken most of the mystique out of players holding conferences on the mound, but the "exchange" that A.J. Burnett and Kevin Cash had yesterday was still pretty amusing.

Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News explains:

At one point in the fifth inning, Burnett threw a couple of bad pitches that made Cash believe he needed a little break. Cash didn't have any words of wisdom for his pitcher, so he made his way to the mound, picked up the rosin bag, dropped it back to the ground and headed back to the plate.

"I didn't say anything, I just let him catch his breath for a minute," Cash said. "He had just thrown a couple of pitches off the plate, and I didn't have anything to say, but I walked out there and bought some time, let him settle back in."

Burnett was very confused. "I thought he was going to say something, then he didn't," Burnett said. "It was one of those moments. I was expecting something, but there was nothing. Maybe he just wanted to stir it up a little. I was like, 'Good talk, Cash.'"

Okay, let's get two! Go get 'em!

Last week Milton Bradley complained that his various run-ins with umpires have caused the men in blue to widen their strike zone when he's at the plate:

Unfortunately, I just think it's a lot of "Oh, you did this to my colleague," or "We're going to get him any time we can. As soon as he gets two strikes, we're going to call whatever and see what he does. Let's try to ruin Milton Bradley." It's just unfortunate. But I'm going to come out on top. I always do.

What am I supposed to do? You lead the American League in OPS, and two years in the top three in the league in on-base percentage. All of a sudden now, I come to Chicago and I can't see the ball no more? I don't know a strike from a ball? I don't think I'm doing anything wrong. There's a lot involved, and it's a lot of politics where there's nothing you can do about it.

The beauty of being a baseball fan in 2009 is that smart people have access to the data necessary to actually investigate those types of claims. Dave Allen of Baseball Analysts did just that, breaking down MLB.com's PitchF/X data to see whether Bradley's strike zone has indeed expanded recently.

His lengthy analysis is definitely worth reading, if only for the cool-looking charts of the strike zone, but the short version is that "there is no statistical difference between Bradley's zone this year and his zone in 2007 and 2008."

It took 2,060 games, but Chipper Jones finally had the first Golden Sombrero of his 16-year career last night, striking out four times against Randy Johnson and the Giants.

Prior to last night there had been a total of 1,279 instances of a player striking out at least four times in a game since Jones joined the Braves' lineup full time in 1995.

But wait, there's more (blame the wonder that is Baseball-Reference.com).

Those 1,279 instances came from 577 different players, 14 of whom had double-digit games with at least four strikeouts before Jones even had one. Jim Thome led the double-digit crew with 16 four-strikeout games, followed by Sammy Sosa with 15.

Jones watched 28 different Braves teammates strike out four or more times in a game before joining the club himself, led by Andruw Jones with 10. Jeff Francoeur and Kelly Johnson were among those 28 and according to Jones "they shook my hand and welcomed me in."

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